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Wednesday Night Happy Hours Starting at 5:30pm PDT 🎉 Visit http://Digital.ai for a Periodic Table Towel and a Logo Beer Mug for attending DevOps and Hops Pool Party! https://digital-ai.zoom.us/j/94185986363 HCL Software DevOps has a trivia game hosted by Secure DevOps experts Chris Nowak and Rob Cuddy! https://www.gotomeet.me/RobCuddy Join Instana’s Virtual Olympics Happy Hour! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83119179479?pwd=dHhGbkNzN0lmTWh1Q2UvSGs1Sy9hdz09 Join LaunchDarkly for a cocktail tutorial, a panel with GitHub VP of Research & Strategy Nicole Forsgren and Microsoft Sr. Cloud Advocate Emily Freeman! https://launchdarkly.zoom.us/my/dockingstation LogDNA will be showing some sleight of hand tricks preformed by one of their own LogDNA employees! https://logdna.zoom.us/j/96923567238?pwd=R25BUTRqdm42MVVDSGdtcG5iVG5mUT09 Join MuseDev for some happy hour Karaoke! https://zoom.us/j/93857848084?pwd=TDVmWnZ4THlJdzU1aFIwbUpmdlhXUT09 NowSecure will be hosting a speakeasy/ prohibition party with craft cocktails, live trivia and multiple chances to win cool swag and your very own Bar in a Box! http://info.nowsecure.com/speakeasy-lounge.html Opsani will have a virtual scavenger hunt where you can win a Starbucks gift card and be entered in to win a $200 Giftly gift card! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82597092758 Join Redgate and Advocate Steve Jones as they host a table on ‘Database DevOps’! http://redgate.zoom.us/j/96830060367?pwd=b3N2MG8rcHIyc3pXSmEyVFp0dVpSUT09&from=msft Meet the Experts with the creators of Rundeck. All attendees will be entered into a raffle for your very own red Swingline stapler! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87284644096 Visit Sysdig to play a live game of Cards Against Containers online and you’ll recieve a FREE deck! https://sysdig.zoom.us/j/99439262928?pwd=bG5pZitteWNENnd0RllSQ0Rya2M4QT09 TeamForm will host a non-product specific (i.e. we won’t promote TeamForm) friendly AMA with our senior leaders who have over 100 years of combined experience. http://us02web.zoom.us/j/83862974825 Join Transposit for Incident management, fighter pilots, and pinot! Win a reserve pinot noir from AB’s winery in Russian River Valley. https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85158021257?pwd=Tzg4QjlUSGwreTVSb2REMlVJQjJOUT09 GitLab is giving away two $100 Amazon Gift Cards at Happy Hour tonight! https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/93201773719?pwd=dXJmT3BKZXNGcDB4OEoySVo2Sjl3UT09 Wednesday Night AMAs 🎤 Gene Kim, author of The Unicorn Project, presented by Sonatype- https://sonatype.zoom.us/j/92102229780?pwd=eTZCelhzTi9NSjJNd1J6MEZKVCtKdz09 Jonathan Smart, author of Sooner Safer Happier, presented by Split-https://split.zoom.us/j/94881945944?pwd=dldGZ0ZoMXJ2UkpwblVDZDhjZjdiQT09https://split.zoom.us/j/93015177536?pwd=SnZ6cm9vR0tPSDk5enROUjVSbnhkUT09 Dr. Mik Kersten, author of Project to Product, presented by Tasktop- https://go.tasktop.com/DOES-Vegas-20-Mik-AMA.html
Will the video from "Getting Back Up when You've been Knocked Down: ....." be posted to the video libary soon? I missed the presentation.
working on it @dnrobertson
Should just be a few mins while it redeploys!
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@ashleyb can you share the link for the Dropbox for downloading slides? Thanks.
Conversation is flowing at happy hour with @mik! Join us here: https://tasktop.zoom.us/s/94693819688
@genek101 - any thoughts on offering a licence for a fee to distribute some of the conference content again internal to a company? I'd be keen to show talks as part of our dojo.
Like Humphrey Bogart said, "We'll always have DOES Vegas." Love the virtual and this new imagining of DOES but nostalgic today for the in-person version. Cheers until we can all meet in person again. Thanks for another vastly helpful conference to learn and grow like no other. 👏👏👏 (and now crank this song to volume 11 to start your day - or just blast the original Boston song version of it) I looked out this morning and the @jtf toast was gone 🍞 Turned on some music to start my digital transformation ⚡ I lost myself in a familiar Parts Unlimited song 🏬 I closed my eyes and I slipped away 👀 It's more than a DevOps feeling (more than a DevOps feeling) 🎤 When I hear that old Phoenix Project song they used to play (more than a feeling) 🎼 And I begin dreaming (more than a DevOps feeling) 🎤 'Til I see our technical debt walk away 🔥 I see my needless bureaucracy and technical debt walkin' awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 🎸 So many software projects have come and gone 👋 Their lines of code fade as the programming years go by 🔢 Yet I still recall as I wander on 🚶 As clear as the @genek101 riding a Unicorn in the age of software sky-y-ey-eyeyeyyy :unicorn_face:☀️☁️
Where can I access the session slides at? I apologize if this has been asked before? :)
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If anyone has a working method of deploying CI/CD SQL Server Agent Jobs that support both SSIS File System and SSIS Catalog, please DM me.
Good morning everyone. Here’s a little Space Unicorn Holiday, parts of which played between sessions at Vegas last year... https://youtu.be/_BfhpUA86hQ
Morning all... fantastic AMA last night with @jonathansmart1 covering so much… couple of things got me thinking and I recalled @jwillis’ challenge: what next for DevOps? For things like CI/CD, “everyone has the memo”, and he wants to push platform next. Maybe we can also think about another goal, relating to enterprise agility? (I use the term to mean the broad set of ideas, practices, cultures, etc. that DOES would like to see large enterprises adopt, and that we expect to lead to BVSSH outcomes.) …first, back to the AMA, Jon Smart advised a couple of things: with a tailwind, it takes 3 years for a corporate transformation to agility (he prefers ‘agility’ to Capital-A Agile), or with a headwind, 5-7 years and can be easily reverse e.g. under new leadership. Also, a lot of firms are coming with the wrong questions, they want a Framework-in-a-Box. Why? They don’t know what’s out there, don’t know what questions to ask. Why? We discussed that perhaps agility-related concepts are not typically on the agenda in business schools (Jon mentioned a few MBAs that do some, and he works with some in London). So, we have conveyor belts churning out managers and execs with the wrong mindsets and then DOES champions try to turn them around on fragile 3-7 year cycles. Is there a better way? Can we intervene earlier? How? Where do the prevailing management paradigms come from? So here’s a proposal for John Willis’ 10-year challenge, to accelerate the IT Revolution mission, lets make sure everyone gets the memo about enterprise agility.
Yes, this is the core challenge to changing an enterprise. Management thinks in timeframes of earnings releases. There's pressure to have simple graphs on PPT to explain how things are going and pressure to ignore reality and show that things are going well. We are being flooded by companies selling snake oil to credulous management who aren't current on what development actually looks like today and how quality feedback loops really work. Changing all of that takes time. You need the convergence of already having people trying, already having some level of platform in existence, and leadership who will be there long enough and push the right things so you can rush forward to the next holding point when they leave.
Same with schools training developers. Why the hell don't they teach how to test?
Maybe we should switch to the guild apprenticeship process for software engineering. Grab people out of HS and make them prove their worth to become journeyman developers.
At my previous place of work we started doing that. Having apprenticeships.
And the process incentivizes using them for a long time so you get a long tail on writing them.
Books are an important part of the toolkit but arguably we're quite rich on that front. Worth noting part of the AMA discussion was on short-form content - like the 1-Minute Manager series - should we write one of those for enterprise agility.
I agree. We should approach this at the scale of the attention span. Dave Farley has been releasing videos like that. I write short, focused blog posts. Those are focused at engineering managers and developers though. How could we introduce the Guido Sarducci "5-Minute College" to MBAs?
I would love there to be a follow up on this conversation. Back in 2018 we did a facilitated session with @jwillis, @genek101, @cwolfe651 with some great input from many others in the DevOps community. We came up with seven ideas that we needed to pursue over the next decade - These are the seven initiatives that we established: • Creating Trust in the profession • Education supports the Ethos (the MBA outreach!) • Continuous Learning & Growth Mindset • Great Ideas Spread Quickly (e.g. Feed an eco system of conferences including small meetups and sharing), • The Business values DevOps (Get the C-suite to care) • DevOps values the Business (DevOps needs to have business impact) • DevOps is recognized as a service (that is delivers something the business and IT need - not a tool a person, or a role) • DevOps is a Perspective not Prescriptive (that we deliberately reach out to diverse and competing points of view and cultivate I think we need to do a retrospective if these are still the right ideas (I think so, comments welcome) and also assess how well we are doing as a community in achieving them
I agree, but we need to get the domain language nailed. We still have "DevOps" as a job they are hiring to template Jenkins and I just gave several managers an "ah ha" this morning by explaining that CD isn't the robots but how we use the robots to flow value. If they don't understand the definitions, their mental model is wrong and we talk past them. How can we more effectively fix their mental model?
This is my 5th time attending, starting with the 1st back in San Fran, then Vegas, and virtual in 2020. Every year I am blown away by the content, the insights and the journey we are all on. Great presentations, delivered with passion, and many things to take away and use in my day to day world. Having the chance to meet old friends and get to know some new ones is one of the many highlights. A tinge of sadness that this is the last day, but bring on next year. Already looking forward to that. Thank you Gene, Jeff, Ann and so many more who make this happen
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Good morning all! I’m pleased to be giving my talk this afternoon (4:40 PDT) in #ask-the-speaker-track-1 about our work within higher education. I’d welcome hearing from anyone else who works in higher ed IT who is on a DevOps journey.
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@annp - can you post a copy of Gene's slides from this AM?
thanks Ann, actually the audio/video would be even better
In the conference "Library", I see Day 1/2 Opening/Closing Remarks videos. Let's hope we get Day 3's as well.
Looks like they're all in there – you can now see the closing remarks we had planned to show 😉
What podcasts do y’all listen to that are similar to the Mik + One and The Idealcast?
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morning everybody! was anyone able to actually download the books we got? (there is an email about it) I can only access them thru the ITRev portal... https://itrevolution.ontraport.com/c/s/Xys/nHUG/6/6O0/t96/6oaVUJ/s3YqZF0Upi/P/P/UU> Download them all right here for free (big thanks to our sponsors!)> • Sooner Safer Happier by Jonathan Smart (available ahead of its official release date for attendees only) • The (Delicate) Art of Business Value by Mark Schwartz (which just released yesterday!) • Agile Conversations by Jeffrey Fredrick & Douglas Squirrel • Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Project to Product by Dr. Mik Kersten • The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim • And for the first time ever, The DevOps Enterprise Journal, which contains all of the latest white papers produced by the incredibly talented DevOps Forum participants.
Hi Leonardo - the actual app will be ready in a few days and the books will be available to download to most iOS or Android devices. In the meantime, you can read books anytime via the library.
I was able to signup and use the papertrell app on my ipad to access and read the books
Wishing all a great Day 3 from the team at Infosys. Proud to have sponsored #DOES20. Do join us on Track 4 at 11:10 AM PDT as we share the DevOps Transformation Journey at HSBC: https://sched.co/edol
Its Thursday, we are experiencing valuable content, and you can still grab a copy of https://myresources.itrevolution.com/redeem/logDNA for free! ☀️ Have a great day, everyone!
Show of hands…. Who thinks a git repo for data is an interesting concept?
@lbmkrishna more like having a place that acts and feels like a git-repo, but is there to handle the data you need for your DEV/QA/AI/ML
Another way to reflect on this: Would having this put developers in the drivers seat because they would not have to wait for IT to provision them the data they need. As you check-out code, the relevant data infrastructure that goes along with this code is also flowing in your CI/CD
Sorry lost my train of thought. What you saying E.T.?! 👻
i almost replied before I stopped and just poured more coffee. Thank you!
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As an experiment we are creating a Better Value Sooner Safer Happier (BVSSH) Community (individuals) and a BVSSH Consortium (member firms). The goal is ongoing, regular, shared learning, sharing antipatterns and patterns. If you'd like to be part of the Community and or Consortium, register your interest https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf59Ut5cSJWT3nKB3GnJhokc8J1QvAf3cve8iNrN83H9yPiJA/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1&flr=0.
Great book @jonathansmart1 !! Resonated like crazy ... put my review out there ( https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vivekretl_sooner-safer-happier-micro-review-activity-6722549816980762624-SFxW ) I would love to be part of the community or consortium.
Check out this offer from @jonathansmart1 about a Community to keep the conversation going post-conference
Pause music could easily morph into Street Hassle ,if the strings got to take off
Last chance Muse demo live now: https://zoom.us/j/92160268642?pwd=SzF6ODZTcVF1dFJvV1V0d3l5UndXdz09 Get setup for the bug bash. Last day!
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Is it possible to buy a company-wide license to share/view the videos? Or does everyone who wants to view more than 2 hours of content need to buy a retroactive conference pass? @annp
Hi Rob - yes, it absolutely is. Here's a link with more information, we are finalizing everything as I type.
Let me know if you have additional or specific questions about this. https://doesvirtual.itrevolution.com/video-library-upgrade
Only one more question - when does -my- access to the videos expire if I don't buy the upgrade? (In other words, how fast do I need to move to maintain access? 🙂
You'll have access via your conference registration for 7 days after we wrap this afternoon.
Basically, it will work like this: • Buy before conference 7 day access ends — extends +1 year after 10/23 • Buy anytime after 10/23 — access lasts +1 year from purchase
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@dwayne, thank you and Norman for this great session. Did these slides get posted somewhere?
Hello! I'd be interested in connecting to any others here who have been on their own Inner Source journey as an enabler for adoption of platforms and reducing the undifferentiated heavy lifting. We've been running our own programme for the last 9 months and have a good core community. We are now facing into the challenge of taking it outside of tooling and into the wider organisation and product delivery streams. Please feel to contact me if you want to know more. https://twitter.com/mcobby https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcobby/
Can you please let me know the link to the dropbox / git with the presentations, Thanks
We're heading over to Track 1 for Work Radical with Matthew Parker!! Come join us and stay tuned for his upcoming book!!
zomg, new ITrev book? 😄 😄
Tentatively planned for 2022!! His talk is a bit of super early sneak peek.
Goodie 😄 Something to look forward to.
i think I need a third screen to follow all this stuff 😄
@dominica Is facilitating a Lean Coffee session on “Project to Product” today 2:50 - 3:50 pm PT. Zoom link will be posted in the #lean-coffee channel at 2:40 pm.
Quick addition: at 1:10 I’m happy to demo Muse but also happy to do https://zoom.us/j/92160268642?pwd=SzF6ODZTcVF1dFJvV1V0d3l5UndXdz09 @genek101 and I have been doing for the last two years. Come for either and we’ll let the crowd decide 🙂
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Heading over to the AMA with Team Topologies authors @matthew and @me1208! Come join us: https://doesvirtual.com/ama-links
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@martynas.plukys glad you enjoyed it! It’s actually just some non-copy righted material. The music genre is Broadcast Rock, tracks called; Inspiration, Taking the Reins, Route to Success, etc. You can often find these types or tracks on music purchase sites like audio jungle and musicbed.
Is anyone using sociometry to gather some data (e.g. communication patterns etc?)? I have been running https://cliq.at for a few years now and I'm thinking about improving it 😄
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PSSST: Come to the value streams lean coffee :i_love_you_hand_sign:
Hi everyone! I’m going to be the host for today’s Security-Audit-Compliance-GRC Birds of a Feather session. Looking forward to talking with you all as this is always an exciting topic: Here’s the Zoom info for BOF session starting at 245pm PT / 545pm ET: https://sonatype.zoom.us/j/98357181714 Meeting ID: 983 5718 1714 One tap mobile <tel:+13017158592,,98357181714#|+13017158592,,98357181714#> US (Germantown) <tel:+13126266799,,98357181714#|+13126266799,,98357181714#> US (Chicago)
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I think politics are really hard to do remotely.. which is one reason we can be more effective remotely
can someone give me the link to the AMA with John Allspaw? Link in the website is not working 😞
should be this one: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88058837517?pwd=akxqN1Q3UzdSOHIwbHhMV2V2UThDUT09
thanks Federico! I was able to get the links to previous AMAs, but not this one. Waiting for it to start 🙂
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Come join us The Role of Communities In Our Work | James Simon Mural Rm 6 Zoom 6: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5305938647?pwd=MWlXQlkrYWZvWUpMYmQxR0t1Rzg5QT09
Thanks @matthew @me1208!! Proud to sponsor your AMA!
It was so great to find a “hallway” for a quick, impromptu meetup with @jonathansmart1 and @jtf to hash out a discussion we were having in #ask-the-speaker-plenary ! I love conferences!!!
The Role of Communities In Our Work | James Simon Mural Rm 6 Zoom 6: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5305938647?pwd=MWlXQlkrYWZvWUpMYmQxR0t1Rzg5QT09
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yeah- just put in the venmo or email me and ill send you a KR shirt
Sweet! Venmo is asking for the last 4 digits of your phone number...
I just sent it without that phone number confirmation @nickeggleston
(stands for Air Force)
I just had my first lean-coffee. Very cool experience! Thanks @jtf and all the participants.
Thanks for joining—it was good fun! https://devopsenterprise.slack.com/archives/CB1MWPBF0/p1602802208183600
"How to create a successful rebellion" Great topic!
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Hi All, Question: How can we rapidly release code when the business refuse to accept the changes unless they manually test themselves?
Still struggling with this. But I expect, if you make the flow visible. Make your definition of done, delivery to QA and show that their manual testing is what is slowing customer delivery, well I hope that will do it.
Its part of the journey - you need to start to show when code is ready to ship, then the time between that and when it gets released - that is the business test time. Link the quality of the release to when it was ready and the gap created by that additional testing. The business really should just focus on the user capability. If you have solid automation in place, and on demand, or daily, or even as needed regression, its about building the trust around the quality, and then changing the approach. It wont happen overnight but using the right insights helps. [4:59 PM] If the business find a lot of issues that another story
@mboudreau327 yes, i had a convo with my director about that this week. It definitely helps remove tech debt, but more than getting the change approved. @themob227, "If the business find a lot of issues that another story" - there is some truth to that. Trust issues - the old regime's history precedes our modernization attempts
@jlaihee Feature Flags will help you deploy code with the new "stuff" launched in the dark. People (presumably the owners) can be configured to see the new stuff. Give your product-owners/veto-holders the confidence that a "rollback" is immediate and you will look like a hero.
@jlaihee Feel free to contact me if you more questions about using them
its part of the journey - you need to start to show when code is ready to ship, then the time between that and when it gets released - that is the business test time. Link the quality of the release to when it was ready and the gap created by that additional testing. The business really should just focus on the user capability. If you have solid automation in place, and on demand, or daily, or even as needed regression, its about building the trust around the quality, and then changing the approach. It wont happen overnight but using the right insights helps.