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Steve Spear15:05:00

@jwillis @jeff.gallimore @nicole.forsythe @jason.cox @mr.denver.martin @jason.cox QUESTION ON BEHALF OF OUR NEPHEW LOOKING FOR STUDY ADVICE. We’ve got a nephew who’s dabbled with computer stuff who’s wanting to build real skill and find a venue for productive application. What’s your collective wisdom on tools (e.g., Linux, Python, Java, Web stack (?), etc.) and direction (ML, automation, etc.). Thanks, Steve

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Steve Spear15:05:00

@jwillis @jeff.gallimore @nicole.forsythe @jason.cox @mr.denver.martin @jason.cox QUESTION ON BEHALF OF OUR NEPHEW LOOKING FOR STUDY ADVICE. We’ve got a nephew who’s dabbled with computer stuff who’s wanting to build real skill and find a venue for productive application. What’s your collective wisdom on tools (e.g., Linux, Python, Java, Web stack (?), etc.) and direction (ML, automation, etc.). Thanks, Steve

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David Sol17:05:07

I think Forrest Brazeal’s Cloud Resume Challenge is a great option! https://cloudresumechallenge.dev/docs/the-challenge/

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Jerreck17:05:40

i'd encourage him to check out the rands leadership slack and do some exploring there. there are quite a few channels for career and learning advice as well as several that cater to different engineering disciplines/industries. good mix of broad and specific things to find with a pretty welcoming and friendly community for the most part https://randsinrepose.com/welcome-to-rands-leadership-slack/

Steve Spear17:05:49

@jerreck.moody @david.sol-llaven I was looking advice for him on what to studay. Someday, we hope he’ll be competing for a job, but this question was more about getting ready for that 🙂

Jerreck17:05:21

yep, i figure there's some folks there who could point him in the right direction study wise as well. lots folks in there actually working those jobs who could have some excellent advice.

David Sol18:05:56

Supposing he is studying for eventually get a job, he needs to study on modern skills that can be applied to a real job. The Challenge makes yo study most of the subjects you need to know/master for a computer job. But it is not studying for the study sake, it is studying to build something you can show in an interview, to prove you have used the technology/concepts in a “real” project.

David Sol18:05:45

Now, if he is studying for study-sake, yes, that is too much “down to earth”.

Steve Spear18:05:26

Ooohhhh. Yes. This is study for getting a job, eventually. I misunderstood the point of the challenge. Let me take another look. The point is to do the challenge to acquire and demostrate teh skills? Got it.

David Sol18:05:12

Yes, it asks for you to do several tasks. Actual tasks. And for each of them you need to learn a tools / technology, and actually apply it in a working scenario. So it is a very hands-on way of learning.

Jim Moverley20:05:57

I've recently been through the FAANG interview process (was Amazon) and what is fascinating about it was they didn't really care too much about my CV : they wanted to assess HOW I grasped the problems : and then HOW I went about to figure out solutions (or experiments to find them) 😄

Jim Moverley20:05:19

as Bryan Finster says : solving business problems with code 😄

Jim Moverley20:05:41

advice : read lots of real world examples, challenge self to solve some actual problems at home (help others with IT issues / code issues?) get stuck in to some opensource projects if feeling brave 🙂 - there is a tonne of material available: as you said yourself recently, about the US navy, and all crew members needing to have basic mechanical engineering grasp : Everyone will need basic coding skills / problem solving skills - so go sharpen them : https://www.codewars.com/join?language=python

Steve Spear09:05:00

@james.moverley @jerreck.moody @jeff.gallimore @jwillis @david.sol-llaven @genek @jwillis @jeff.gallimore @nicole.forsythe @jason.cox @mr.denver.martin @jason.coxThanks for the inputs, above. I shared them with our nephew, much appreciated. RELATED QUESTION: for the entry level reader—best intro reading for agile?

Jerreck12:05:23

For learning agile I'd recommend he get certified through Scaled Agile DevOps Maturity Framework. You can't really claim to understand agile without being a SADMF. https://scaledagiledevops.com/

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Jerreck12:05:03

j/k - on a more serious note, prob just have him start with the manifesto and google the signatories names. Theyve all written about it extensively. Engineering the digital transformation by gary gruver has a great intro to the evolution of software engineering practices as they were initially adopted from manufacturing that does the best job ive seen thus far of giving context for the emergence of waterfall, agile, devops, and CD

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Jim Moverley17:05:14

i would suggest for the goal : this version - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Goal-Business-Graphic-Novel/dp/0815385137 (sorry UK amazon link, but im sure you can get in US)

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Steve Spear17:05:27

The Goal, in comic form OH EM GEE!!!!!! Finally, my topic in my format.

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David Sol17:05:44

Nice! I am a comics fan too

Steve Spear17:05:21

As for all that Gene Kim stuff, is that really credible? I mean really. There’s so much of it. Isn’t it like he’s just cranking it out like James Paterson or what not? 🙂

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Jim Moverley18:05:16

Oh man.. this had me in stitches!!! lol @steve773 man of the hour! 😄

Jim Moverley18:05:50

sure i can't tweet this? 😄 😄

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Jim Moverley18:05:41

I've been on the hunt for graphic artists to express some "aha moments" in comic form 😄

Jim Moverley18:05:49

though agile comic does this really well too..

Steve Spear08:06:15

@jerreck.moody After the agile certification, I know a number of lean and six sigma certifications that can be done too with lots of belts and certificates and you can use Japanese words rather than simple English. And even some cultural fusion (appropriation) with some sensei and grasshopper thrown into the same phrases.

Jerreck12:06:38

@steve773 nice! The great thing about the SADMF certification process is that it's streamlined for executives. All you need to do to get certified is send @bryan.finster486 money. https://scaledagiledevops.com/certifications/

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Bryan Finster - Defense Unicorns (Speaker)13:06:34

Yep, SADMF is optimized for simple.