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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations08:10:22

I wonder if I’ll be the only person interested in pre-conference drinks tonight… 😄

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations12:10:04

Tonight I think I’m still on London time. Or at least I’ll start on London time. 😄 Tomorrow I’ll switch to Vegas time.

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)12:10:25

Okay, so 15:00 Helsinki time is not optimal since I am running a Scrum simulation for students... So 18:00 London time is an opportunity tomorrow.

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)12:10:51

Oooh, of course. I should have ignored the tool. It seems I get distracted by the impeccable UX which highlighted 15 despite the URL parameters. 😫

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations15:10:42

On my first encounter I remember finding it pretty slick. Doesn’t seem like that now.

Nick - developer at BNPP06:10:10

Define “tonight”. Has it already happen?

Nick - developer at BNPP06:10:52

Bummer. Well, I’m sure I will have plenty of opportunities more ))

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Nick - developer at BNPP06:10:43

I’m trying to switch my internal clocks to PDT for the next three days.

Nick Eggleston (free radical)09:10:09

Looking forward to it “tonight” ;)

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations14:10:19

I ended up staying awake until 05:00 London time to start on that journey. 😄

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant08:10:51

I am in Indian timezone so I guess it will be breakfast time for me. Happy to hangout though 😄

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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations09:10:23

I just wrote in my gratitude journal how fortunate I am to be able to take part in an event like this with people all over the world. Coming back to your comment @kapoor.vaidik feels like the perfect confirmation of that thought!

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Nick Eggleston (free radical)09:10:55

How does the gratitude journal work and benefit? Sounds interesting...

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations14:10:45

Short version: in the journal write three things that you’re grateful for. Could be large, could be small. From what I’ve read gratitude journaling has a significant predictable impact on our happiness. I believe it is because we practice seeing things to be grateful for and work to bring them to mind, so they become a more significant part of our life.

Nick Eggleston (free radical)16:10:32

That makes sense as it focuses the mind on positive things. I find following @humanprogress on twitter helps my keep a positive frame on the world, given the bias toward negativity in most modern media.

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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations16:10:30

I don’t read the news for exactly that reason. Tip: set your location in Twitter to Fiji to remove a bunch of noise from the Trends For You section.

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Nick Eggleston (free radical)23:10:05

Ooooo I'd never thought about changing "location". thanks!

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant10:10:47

awesome @jtf! what is your timezone? What time do you want to hangout?

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations10:10:50

I’m London based, currently in BST / GMT+1. How’s 17:00 London / 09:00 Las Vegas / 21:30 India @kapoor.vaidik?;p1=136&amp;p2=127&amp;p3=771

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Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant10:10:13

Works for me. See you (and others) then.

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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations11:10:14

Terrible idea for a DOES drinking game: drink every time someone talks about structures and dynamics.

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations11:10:14

Terrible idea for a DOES drinking game: drink every time someone talks about structures and dynamics.

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations11:10:31

full disclosure: you’ll be taking a drink during our talk

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)12:10:04

Why not drink on "incident" or "management" as well?

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations12:10:54

An answer to the question: “how could we make this game even more devastating?”

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)12:10:57

I always take a sip when somebody dares to add the redundant Sec

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Sophie Weston12:10:18

DevOps Bingo

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations13:10:30

We need a few more to make up the complete card… More suggestions?

Sophie Weston13:10:32

Flow, shift left, feedback loop, value stream

Nick - developer at BNPP15:10:35

CAB. Change freeze. Segregation of duties. Let’s not forget where we came from :)

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Rob Cuddy - DevSecOps Evangelist17:10:07

DevSecOps for sure... and @ferrix "Gene and I" is comedic gold. How about references to Phoenix Project and Unicorn Project characters? Like if someone references "Brent" or "Maxine" or "Kurt"...

Kellie, NowSecure13:10:15

Save the Date: Wednesday, Oct. 14th at 5:30pm PST. Hope you can join us!

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations16:10:29

It is @ferrix! I think @kapoor.vaidik may be around as well

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)16:10:39

I'll put the kettle on. It seems the support team has failed to read my "Get Beer" Kanban card.

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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations16:10:27

Getting a bottle open for my bottle of Old Peculier

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:33

where are we hanging? is someone starting a zoom or something?

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations16:10:46

Anything you’re particularly looking forward to Vaidik, Ferrix?

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations16:10:21

Good to aim for something you can count on!

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)16:10:02

While I have decided that I am not busy unless there is a real fire (flames, smoke, warmth, no fireplace), I have not had the time to find out what this round of DOES is going to be. I was not disappointed the last time and I am not intending to be disappointed this time either. Also, some of the discussions and BOFs were great and by definition serendipitous

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:29

Well, I sure hope it doesn't disappoint.

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:44

It's my first time at DOES. So I am really looking forward to it and excited to be here.

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Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:12

I was planning to attend London in person. #dammitcovid

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)16:10:16

Haha. I am not excited to be here. I have been right here on this chair ever since the previous DOES 😄

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:38

As good as it gets these days. Out of work, I actually don't have much to look forward to back at home. So conferences are the new "positive" escape.

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations16:10:32

I enjoyed London immensely. This format with recording and the Slack backchannel was better for me than an in person conference.

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Nick Eggleston (free radical)09:10:25

The virtual experience with London was better for me as well. As I lean toward introversion, I struggle to engage in the in-person events, especially as the group size increases. Also, being virtual allowed me to attend London (I’m in the US), especially since Travel wasn’t possible and I was paying out of pocket (having gotten the COVID-axe). I hope virtual/remote participation remains for the future and is well integrated into the experience. I do wish they would leave time between sessions for the q&a with the speakers to cadence naturally... Anyway, really glad to hear others prefer some aspects of virtual...

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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations16:10:56

I miss the in person conversations however I don’t think I’d want to lose the Slack channels in the future.

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Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:16

Right. That is truly a good thing to happen to conferences.

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)16:10:35

I was at the summer cottage for London and that was nice. Due to working days and watching streams until I keel over, that's not going to be an option.

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:59

See what we are doing right now is not something that I would enjoy on Slack. Need a bar with good beer and people for conversations.

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:12

But the engagement on Slack while talks are on - that was great

Vaidik Kapoor (Speaker) - Technology Consultant16:10:28

I just attended ChaosConf. It was my first virtual conf. Great experience!

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)16:10:32

If you want to take this conversation to the audiovisual level, here's a zoom:

Rob Cuddy - DevSecOps Evangelist17:10:06

There are a lot of different happy-hour events at this years conference - hosting one Wednesday and just sharing for your awareness and interest. WEDNESDAY: SECURE DEVOPS TRIVIA HAPPY HOUR 5:50 pm – 6:50 pm PDT Think you know Secure DevOps? Test your knowledge during this trivia game hosted by Secure DevOps experts Chris Nowak and Rob Cuddy. Get your phones ready to play this live quiz and you could win an Amazon gift card!

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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations17:10:56

shared for discussion in our pre-conference 🍻

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations17:10:35

I’m super excited about this paper, and the potential latent in learning from the periphery.

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations17:10:32

on view of Toyota as described in High Velocity Edge vs Taylorism is Toyota enables learning at the edges while Taylorism can only learn at the center.

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)18:10:52

This periphery thinking applies to organizations and within a mind. So, there is all that intuition that we can choose to ignore due to status.

Nick Eggleston (free radical)09:10:16

Good read. I think there is a lot to unpack in what it brings up...