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Steve Thair (DevOpsGroup)09:06:27

Looking forward to seeing everyone on the #bof-next-gen-ops call at the slightly later time today of 1450 BST. Zoom call details below. as always if you have any questions you'd like to discuss please post them in the Jamboard - https://jamboard.google.com/d/10D9mwYtVfFFL_zC7sNH1v8wTKhRqot_M-JYzUJEAw5A/viewer?f=0 https://devopsgroup.zoom.us/j/96530895076?pwd=cGxGL0p5M2hwYWVJK0dqa1M5MlU0Zz09

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Rupert Whitley10:06:39

And for those who have questions and experiences they'd like to share about Overcoming Old Ways of Working, please do join in the conversation in #bof-overcoming-old-wow, add to our https://jamboard.google.com/d/19yV_mBI7bVBVBIDtMvT0HWfG0cjanlX-le79MjXjXNI/edit?usp=sharing or join https://devopsgroup.zoom.us/j/93486144501?pwd=MWphL3VjN0RCejRTQjFIU1JBeEkwdz09

Ed Pearson (DevOpsGroup)12:06:12

Another great project-to-product discussion planned for 14:50 today. Join us on https://devopsgroup.zoom.us/j/95781183645?pwd%3DNk85OW5zQnI1QzZVRkhOY0t0cGV3UT09&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1593518746907000&usg=AOvVaw37M0CHkL22qH_75310UxN9, bring your questions and experiences and join the open discussion. If you would prefer to ask your question in advance join our https://jamboard.google.com/d/1nSYKqc3B1gFc6PS4GLnvzfPD7ZmihctL-HIwJabsqsY/viewer?f=0!

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Raj Fowler12:06:27

Hereā€™s a sneak peak of the themes for the New Normal session

Raj Fowler12:06:27

Hereā€™s a sneak peak of the themes for the New Normal session

j01:06:12

Sorry I couldn't join this session. I'd have to disagree with this schema. ā€¢ A cloud migration isn't the answer to build operational resilience. ā€¢ Automation of processes as-is doesn't bring operational efficiency, particularly over time. It also often goes against operational resiliency goals. Realigning processes along the value stream and breaking organisational silos is more important. ā€¢ Information Security - Please do not equate security and governance... ā€¢ Customer Experience. The improved productivity can help but doesn't make CX unless your organisation is designed to listen to customer šŸ˜‰ Creativity requires the right culture, and unfortunately that's still not evident for many company leaders.

Duena Blomstrom, Psychological Safety Dashboard CEO, Author PeopleBeforeTech13:06:32

@raj.fowler is that last one meant to be the all encompassing ā€œhuman bitā€?

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Raj Fowler13:06:44

Yes. Customers and staff.

Duena Blomstrom, Psychological Safety Dashboard CEO, Author PeopleBeforeTech13:06:04

Just a personal pet peeve but when we put it at the end it justifies those that think itā€™s an afterthought instead of the foundation šŸ™ˆ

Duena Blomstrom, Psychological Safety Dashboard CEO, Author PeopleBeforeTech13:06:04

Just a personal pet peeve but when we put it at the end it justifies those that think itā€™s an afterthought instead of the foundation šŸ™ˆ

Steve Thair (DevOpsGroup)13:06:12

I like the idea of calling it "human experience" as a way to encompass every interaction!

Duena Blomstrom, Psychological Safety Dashboard CEO, Author PeopleBeforeTech13:06:57

That works. The humans. As long as we know it should make up for the bulk of the work

Raj Fowler13:06:47

I agree and I guess this is not in a priority order but it would be interesting to see how others have navigated the pandemic. The order though does seem to reflect some of our experiences with different organisations: ā€¢ Stabilise the business ā€¢ Remove waste ā€¢ Secure the business as operating practices change ā€¢ Figure out what is going on based on data, customer and staff ā€¢ Pivot and accelerate the business to meet customer, business and staff needsā€¦. backed by data, on a secure, resilient foundation with constraints optimisedā€¦. Be good for you to join the conversation at 14:50 if you can.

Raj Fowler13:06:55

However, that may not be the order in a post pandemic and thats a great challenge @me1342

Duena Blomstrom, Psychological Safety Dashboard CEO, Author PeopleBeforeTech13:06:29

Cool - will find you guys. Ideally after youā€™ve finished talking about the easy bits:wink:

Raj Fowler13:06:26

Lets flip the conversation roundā€¦ happy to start with thisā€¦.

Ferrix Hovi - Principal Engineering Avocado - SOK (S Group)18:10:12

@me1342 How do you like the patched version? šŸ˜›

Duena Blomstrom, Psychological Safety Dashboard CEO, Author PeopleBeforeTech15:10:03

Ohhh shiny! First thing I laid eyes on when back here, this is bonding well @ferrix - lovely to see you again

Simon sabin13:06:04

Data Devops BoF starting shortly https://zoom.us/j/93519781970

Rupert Whitley13:06:26

Overcoming Old Ways of Working birds of a feather session starting now! Please do join in the conversation inĀ #bof-overcoming-old-wow andĀ https://devopsgroup.zoom.us/j/93486144501?pwd=MWphL3VjN0RCejRTQjFIU1JBeEkwdz09!