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Matt Cobby (Director of Engineering, Deloitte)00:06:24

Are the BoF Zoom sessions recorded? Are they available to view afterwards? They are after midnight for me and I wasn't able to stay up for them.

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Matt Cobby (Director of Engineering, Deloitte)00:06:24

Are the BoF Zoom sessions recorded? Are they available to view afterwards? They are after midnight for me and I wasn't able to stay up for them.

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Jon Smart [Sooner Safer Happier]07:06:28

They are not, as Chatham House rules cc @jeff.gallimore

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Tom Coudyzer06:06:07

Good morning (day/evening/night, wherever you are ๐Ÿ™‚ ) Looking forward to day 2, just realised I was yesterday on the army preparing for war, I was part of the USS enterprise deck and I got some education on becoming a CSI detective. Yes, this appears to be DevOps, an amazing world with an even more amazing community! Absolutely sure today will continue with the same vibe!

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Ferrix Hovi - Head of DevOps - Siili06:06:32

As they say, my body is ready... however the mind is a bit groggy. โ˜•

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Naren Yellavula06:06:39

Good morning everyone. Just finished my Croissant and Laugenzopf mit Kรคse with milk coffee. Ready for Day 2! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Yannick Muller07:06:12

Morning everyone from France. Delighted to be part of this great discussion. Thanks again to speaker for their wisdom.

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Amy Johnston07:06:14

Good morning! Another sunny day here in the Netherlands. โ˜€๏ธ ๐Ÿ˜Ž Ready for more excellent talks!

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brntbeer07:06:49

@amy.johnston it's SO HOT

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brntbeer07:06:49

@amy.johnston it's SO HOT

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Amy Johnston07:06:17

Summer has arrived! ๐Ÿ˜„

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations07:06:23

It is supposed to get up to 31ยฐ in London today! How about there?

brntbeer07:06:10

ooof. we're only hitting 29 today (i bet we hit 30), 29 tomorrow and 31 friday before the rain comes

Amy Johnston07:06:39

Yeah, and it's already 26ยฐ where I am ๐Ÿ˜…

Malgorzata Ilczyk07:06:27

oh.. in Hamburg will be max 26 today

Slackbot07:06:03

Reminder: <!here> Get yourself in front of your browser for the opening remarks. Weโ€™re kicking off Day 2 in 15 minutes!

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Joachim07:06:54

Good Morning! Luxembourg turns into the French Riviera this week (minus the :beach_with_umbrella:).

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mohitraina07:06:24

Good morning everyone!!

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Richard Herrett07:06:32

I'd like to let the organisers know that I think this virtual summit is great, way more intense than I expected, but... I think I'm in the groove now.

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BMK-BNZ-ValueStreamArchitect07:06:06

Good day friends - looking forward day-2 DOES

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Olivier Jacques, DXC07:06:59

Gooood morning ! ๐Ÿ‘‹

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How was Day 1, everyone? Post an emoji!!!

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mohitraina07:06:27

Simply Awesome ๐Ÿ‘โค๏ธ!!!

Jay Rathod07:06:21

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Abel Chavanga07:06:30

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Duena Blomstrom, Psychological Safety Dashboard CEO, Author PeopleBeforeTech07:06:27

(longer form) Morning team! Posted this in the relevant channel but here it is again - day 1 was ๐Ÿ”ฅ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/devops-makes-everything-faster-better-including-events-blomstrom

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Marc Cluet07:06:08

Morning everyone

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Goran Bijelic07:06:10

Good morning everyone. Have an enjoyable second day

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Thomas Williams07:06:12

Good morning ๐Ÿ™‚

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JD Myers - Business Application Analyst07:06:29

Good Morning ๐Ÿ™‚

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Kim Smith07:06:48

Morning everyone ๐Ÿ‘‹

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Scott Prugh (CTO - CSG) DOES Prog Committee07:06:48

Good morning from Chicago!

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Scott Prugh (CTO - CSG) DOES Prog Committee07:06:48

Good morning from Chicago!

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brntbeer07:06:58

whoaa good morning

Areti Panou07:06:22

Good morning from Heidelberg โ˜€๏ธ

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Steve - LBG DevOps07:06:36

Good morning everyone

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Gareth Ferrier07:06:26

Good morning everyone from :mostly_sunny: Glasgow ๐Ÿ‘‹

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Dheeraj Nayal (DevOps Institute)08:06:16

Another day at DOES20 to Get Together, Go Faster :unicorn_face:

Matthew Skelton (co-author of Team Topologies)08:06:47

Good morning from Yorkshire ๐Ÿ’ฎ !! Here is a sneak preview of the conclusions of some early adopters of the Team Topologies ๐Ÿ“— ideas - @me1208 and I will be sharing more details at 13:25 UK time :thumbsup:

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brntbeer08:06:52

Being on booth duty yesterday i missed a lot (nearly all) talks. What's the best thing people are seeing? what new tech am i missing out on?

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Eveline Oehrlich08:06:01

Thank you @brent939 for manning the booth...yesterday check out Shaaron Alvarez pitch and the iptq start from Swiss Re...great sessions.

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brntbeer08:06:59

ah great! will do @eoehrlich

Davy Kenis08:06:53

question regarding the e-books, anyone figured out if we could use the downloaded e-books on e-readers?

Davy Kenis08:06:53

question regarding the e-books, anyone figured out if we could use the downloaded e-books on e-readers?

Ann Perry - IT Revolution08:06:16

Hi Davy - yes, you should be able to access the e-books on most mobile e-readers!

Stijn Claes - Nike08:06:42

@annp can you give some more specific instructions? Looked into it quickly yesterday but did not figure it out straight away.

Philippe Stemberger08:06:43

@stijn.claes I think you need to connect your ereader to the laptop like a USB disk and then transfer the ebook. The reader will then pick it up and you should be able to read it (if format are supported)

Karl Marfitt10:06:52

Unsure what file format the e-books you're talking about are in but you can use tools like https://calibre-ebook.com/ to convert them to most other popular formats. My wife loves her Kindle and I'm always converting .epub format files to .mobi ones for her ๐Ÿ˜‰

Ann Perry - IT Revolution10:06:10

I'm going to loop in my colleague, @annan, who can give further insight!

Anna Noak (she/her) - IT Revolution10:06:47

Hi @davy.kenis right now, IT Revolution ebooks are available to read via our website reader. Once you claimed an ebook, you should have received an email confirming your free book and a link. We will be releasing an app that will be downloadable to e-readers and smartphones next month, when that goes live, you will get an email and link letting you know itโ€™s available. I hope this answered you question?

Davy Kenis10:06:04

super! Thx Anna!

Naren Yellavula08:06:34

Is anyone creating a book list for all the insightful books mentioned by speakers? I have made an attempt here: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/149789.Devops_Enterprise_Summit_2020_Book_leads Please feel free to add/vote other books I missed.

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Naren Yellavula08:06:34

Is anyone creating a book list for all the insightful books mentioned by speakers? I have made an attempt here: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/149789.Devops_Enterprise_Summit_2020_Book_leads Please feel free to add/vote other books I missed.

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Daniel Cahill - Engineer - Ontario Systems08:06:30

I have a list of 13-14 books I've seen recommended so far. I can try to look at that later to see what I can add to it.

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Julia Harrison09:06:14

The ones I referenced in my talk yesterday were: โ€ข Drive - Dan Pink โ€ข Inspired - Marty Cagan โ€ข Measure What Matters - John Doerr โ€ข Radical Focus - Christine Wodtke and one I mentioned on slack in some other conversations and frequently recommend: โ€ข How to Measure Anything - Douglas W Hubbard

Naren Yellavula09:06:59

Thanks Julia, I really appreciate it. I missed your Byte talk yesterday as I was listening to a different one. I received a very positive feedback from my colleagues have to go through your talk from video library.

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Manuel Pais, speaker, co-author Team Topologies11:06:14

@rene.lippert and @fernando.cornago442 mentioned our book Team Topologies ๐Ÿ˜€

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Eveline Oehrlich08:06:39

Great journey description from Nationwide! Was well worth listening.

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brntbeer08:06:36

enjoyed it as well! great growth!

Cecilia Judmann (Redgate)08:06:44

Good morning from Redgate! ๐Ÿ™‚ Hope you've had an amazing first day! If you haven't yet, check out our booth to enter our passport game to win an amazing luxury hamper: https://doesvirtual.com/redgate

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Jess Meyer - IT Revolution (she/her)08:06:15

In follow up to the excellent talk by Nationwide! https://www.nationwide-jobs.co.uk/tech-talent/

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Teri Patrick08:06:19

Re: politics: This is a great book for understanding the impact of politics on innovation. It's written by a physicist turned business leader - who brings a physicist pov to understanding organizational culture. https://www.amazon.com/Loonshots-Nurture-Diseases-Transform-Industries/dp/1250185963

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Teri Patrick08:06:19

Re: politics: This is a great book for understanding the impact of politics on innovation. It's written by a physicist turned business leader - who brings a physicist pov to understanding organizational culture. https://www.amazon.com/Loonshots-Nurture-Diseases-Transform-Industries/dp/1250185963

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Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations08:06:12

more conversation about the talk in #ask-the-speaker-keynote

Eveline Oehrlich08:06:34

@naren.yellavula see the Loonshots books to add to your list.

Eveline Oehrlich08:06:34

@naren.yellavula see the Loonshots books to add to your list.

Naren Yellavula08:06:09

added it. Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

Jonathan Garzon08:06:04

Good morning everyone! How are you all? Let's not forget to download the "https://www.sonatype.com/dnt-2020-does-london" ๐Ÿ™‚

Nick Lomas09:06:42

Curious to see what everyone's top 3 takeways are from yesterday? Also what do you want to make sure you see/find out over the next few days?

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Compuware_Stu09:06:15

Great story from CSG as they embrace their mainframe

Eveline Oehrlich09:06:20

Agree. The challenge is where are the people with the skills in CICS, VSAM, COBOL, Mainframe JAVA and Mainframe DB2.

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Andre Lee-Moye, DZone09:06:00

Good morning everyone! Looks like a lot of you are writing! If you'd like to share your experiences with millions of other devs worldwide, check out DZone! https://dzone.com/pages/contribute

Eveline Oehrlich09:06:36

In our last DevOps Skill research, we found that 7% of our large amount of respondents said that mainframe skills are a must-have, 32% nice-to-have and 60% optional.

Eveline Oehrlich09:06:23

We ...DevOps Institute...will see how this has changed with the next survey coming soon.

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Giulio Vian, Unum09:06:33

lots of video lagging even with "Low latency" off

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Jonathan Garzon09:06:46

I would like to also add to you all, not to forget to pop into theย #xpo-sonatype-devsecops to discuss your DevSecOps challenges and remediating security risks throughout your SDLCย ๐Ÿ˜ย https://doesvirtual.com/sonatype

Slackbot09:06:28

Reminder: Just a reminder we have some fun games to play. And maybe youโ€™ll win some prizes! You can play Sticker Off, Scavenger Hunt, and the Passport Game. Get more info at https://doesvirtual.com/games or in #games.

ItsAsh (ITREV Event Staff)09:06:55

Tell Us Moreย :face_with_monocle:ย -ย https://doesvirtual.com/gitlabย - If you could change one tool in your toolchain which one would it be and what would you replace it with?

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Mira-Compuware09:06:25

Good morning all, here is a morning piece definitely worth reading. Read how a large UK bank realized a 233% increase in story point production and an 83% reduction in bugs released into production: http://bit.ly/2P3gHLG Interested for a chat? Feel free to join our video call at our stand and talk to one of our experts onsite: https://doesvirtual.com/compuware

Huub van der Wouden09:06:51

Thanks @samgu that was an inspiring talk!

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Huub van der Wouden09:06:51

Thanks @samgu that was an inspiring talk!

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Thomas Williams09:06:19

Time for a 20 minute nap!

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jeff.gallimore (CTIO - Excella, he/him)10:06:50

<!here> Break now then breakout talks starting at 11:25 a.m. London time. Then networking time and networking opportunities starting at 2:25 p.m. London time โ€” birds of a feather, lean coffee, and chat roulette. Back here for more keynote talks start at 4:35 p.m. London time.

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Noa Korem10:06:49

For those here that are interested in Dev-first security, @guy is speaking in 20 min (11:25am BST) at https://sched.co/cfud. This piece was published yesterday about https://thenewstack.io/a-new-path-for-security-the-benefits-of-a-dev-first-security/, and Guypo will give more examples on his talk.

Mira-Compuware10:06:32

This morning @ Compuware stand we are discussing how a large UK financial institution enabled aย https://slack-redir.net/link?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fhashtag%2FDevOps%3Fsrc%3Dhashtag_clickย culture change, re-energized its workforce, did more work with same resources and vastly reduced bug leakage. Read more here:ย http://bit.ly/30wMxojย or join virtual call at our stand. Looking forward seeing you there. : )

ItsAsh (ITREV Event Staff)10:06:14

BFF Zoneย :star-struck:ย - Sonatype - Download 49 short stories, where pros like Adidas and Google share their DevOps journey, challenges, and accomplishments.ย https://www.sonatype.com/dnt-2020-does-londonย and automatically be entered into their Summer Staycation Giveaway!

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ItsAsh (ITREV Event Staff)10:06:14

BFF Zoneย :star-struck:ย - Sonatype - Download 49 short stories, where pros like Adidas and Google share their DevOps journey, challenges, and accomplishments.ย https://www.sonatype.com/dnt-2020-does-londonย and automatically be entered into their Summer Staycation Giveaway!

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Blake (Community at DZone; Gene Kim Fan Club Member 2,000,005)10:06:39

That's a lot of stories! Sounds like a good read.

Slackbot10:06:13

Reminder: The breakout sessions are starting in 5 minutes. Get in front of your browser and start navigating your way to whichever session youโ€™re attending.

Slackbot10:06:13

Reminder: The breakout sessions are starting in 5 minutes. Get in front of your browser and start navigating your way to whichever session youโ€™re attending.

Olivier Jacques, DXC10:06:10

And "Unmute" ๐Ÿ˜

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Olivier Jacques, DXC10:06:01

One more talk on DevOps Dojos, starting in 1 minute. => Track 3.

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Olivier Jacques, DXC10:06:01

One more talk on DevOps Dojos, starting in 1 minute. => Track 3.

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Ed Pearson (DevOpsGroup)10:06:38

Looking forward to another birds-of-a-feather session later.ย  Join us on https://devopsgroup.zoom.us/j/95043584583?pwd=L01JOUsxeUFyU3luY2Zlc212ZE5SQT09 for an open discussion on all things Project-to-Product or join us in the #bof-project-to-product channel to discuss how we are putting the customer back at the heart of IT.

Mira-Compuware10:06:46

Mainframe enterprises making rapid transformation progress to empower their cross-platform teams with modern mainframe tools that integrate into a robustย DevOpsย toolchain. Where are you on your DevOps journey and what does your DevOps toolchain look like? The Compuware team is excited to chat to you at our virtual stand:ย https://slack-redir.net/link?url=https%3A%2F%2Fteams.microsoft.com%2Fl%2Fmeetup-join%2F19%253ameeting_NTFhMWU4NjktZWEzNC00NDFmLWIxZmYtMGU0YjUxYjIxZDJk%2540thread.v2%2F0%3Fcontext%3D%257b%2522Tid%2522%253a%2522893e9ba3-1b78-44d8-aca9-105fab957fed%2522%252c%2522Oid%2522%253a%252205c0f8e2-1d10-4b59-8216-2580708f28a6%2522%257d

Stijn Claes - Nike10:06:10

@genek101 can you share the links to the presentations here? Or point me to it?

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Stijn Claes - Nike10:06:10

@genek101 can you share the links to the presentations here? Or point me to it?

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Stephen Magill [Sonatype]10:06:51

Good morning everyone. The Vendor Dome Q&A yesterday led to a discussion of WebGoat as a good dev training tool, which got us thinking about games, security, and training. We ended up putting together a contest based on this. See here for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EoWKJidWr9013UDhvY0Yb2rveLBliUEgN6fK_jX6gTQ/ The summary is: find and fix bugs in WebGoat with Muse and you can earn prizes.

Rui Marques10:06:55

Do we have tracks swapped around right now?

Rui Marques10:06:55

Do we have tracks swapped around right now?

Rui Marques10:06:54

Solved just moments ago... tkx

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Stephen Magill [Sonatype]10:06:09

I had trouble joining the stream for Gene and my talk. The link on the site was broken. Pasting here in case others had this issue: https://live.itrevolution.com/?_ga=2.84715289.182455752.1592901504-1943533546.1592901504

Stephen Magill [Sonatype]10:06:09

I had trouble joining the stream for Gene and my talk. The link on the site was broken. Pasting here in case others had this issue: https://live.itrevolution.com/?_ga=2.84715289.182455752.1592901504-1943533546.1592901504

Alex Broderick-Forster, IT Revolution, Event Staff12:06:36

@stephen same without the extra stuff on the end of the URL? https://live.itrevolution.com/

Steve Spear11:06:52

@genek101 Great practice comes from experience but experience comes from bad practice. Nice!

Chris Leeworthy (he/him)11:06:11

I canโ€™t see any of the videos on any track at the moment, the rest of my internet access is working ok. Anyone else having trouble?

Chris Leeworthy (he/him)11:06:11

I canโ€™t see any of the videos on any track at the moment, the rest of my internet access is working ok. Anyone else having trouble?

Jonathan Garzon11:06:57

It should be working, it works for me.

Chris Leeworthy (he/him)11:06:03

Thanks Jonathan ๐Ÿ™‚

Chris Leeworthy (he/him)11:06:50

nope, Iโ€™m back to a black screen ๐Ÿ˜ž , clearly the problem is local to me. I will have to do some digging

Jonathan Garzon11:06:55

hmmm? ๐Ÿ˜ž that's odd. Ok do let me know if you manage to get in at the end.

Chris Leeworthy (he/him)11:06:18

ah! disabling โ€œLow Latencyโ€ seems to have done the trick ๐Ÿ™‚

Jonathan Garzon11:06:34

wohoo

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Eveline Oehrlich11:06:46

I can see all fine.

Eveline Oehrlich11:06:17

Great talk from DXC on "Training as code"...they are open sourcing some great upskilling Dojos.

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Eveline Oehrlich11:06:17

Great talk from DXC on "Training as code"...they are open sourcing some great upskilling Dojos.

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Olivier Jacques, DXC11:06:38

Thank you @oehrliche. We believe so much in Open Source. Now, I have to admit I have not seen a lot of trainings being Open Sourced. We sincerely hope this community can take advantage of it and also contribute / build. A link for those who missed the talk: https://dxc-technology.github.io/about-devops-dojo/

Eveline Oehrlich11:06:53

@olivier.jacques I am Chief Research Director at DevOps Institute. I am going to see if one of our partner managers can reach out to connect with you guys. It would be awesome to work with you all on this. We have over 50,000 members. Can you send me a email at <mailto:oehrliche@devopsinstitute.com|oehrliche@devopsinstitute.com> so that I can connect you? thx.

Matt Cobby (Director of Engineering, Deloitte)11:06:08

So many talks and I want to be in them all. I like this new format for being able to do that, although it is quite intense.

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Matt Cobby (Director of Engineering, Deloitte)11:06:08

So many talks and I want to be in them all. I like this new format for being able to do that, although it is quite intense.

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Kurt A, Blameless, SRE Architect11:06:24

โž• - I feel like we should call the conference to be 50% longer than the focused delivery window so that people can continue to consume and interact with the "other" content and each other before having to revert to "normal" work

Matt Cobby (Director of Engineering, Deloitte)11:06:53

I think so, this slack channel is the key enabler for me and makes up a lot for the lack of face to face time. I'm GMT+10 and async is super helpful.

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Rui Marques11:06:59

`Our First Inverse Conway's Maneuver Was Not Enough (Lufthansa Systems GmbH &amp; Co.)` another great talk that just reminds be of Team Topologies book... it's a must read for sure.

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Goran Bijelic11:06:00

Come and join GitLab https://gitlab.zoom.us/j/97666767484 in 5min. Now you can ask questions about GitLab single application CI/CD, with built in security and compliance. See you soon!

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Slackbot11:06:30

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Slackbot11:06:25

Reminder: Weโ€™re heading to break now. Recharge, refuel, and get ready for an amazing second half of Day 2.

Jonathan Garzon11:06:24

Hey all, you can download the https://www.sonatype.com/en-us/software-supply-chain-2019 any questions or if you are thinking on assessing your software supply chain and want to hear how you can find, fix and remediate security vulnerabilities across your SDLC then do ping me a DM ๐Ÿ™‚

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Jess Meyer - IT Revolution (she/her)11:06:06

<!here> Schedule update: Ann Marie Fred and Craig Cook's (IBM) talk will air as planned at 1:55pm BST in Track 1. Clarissa Lucas and Rusty Lewis' (Nationwide) talk will air in Track 2 tomorrow at 11:20am BST.

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Mira-Compuware11:06:43

Good afternoon DOES folks, join our team for a virtual lunch session and get your free access to three practical ebooks that help to improve software development and delivery quality, velocity and efficiency. Interested to know more? Visit us onsite :ย https://slack-redir.net/link?url=https%3A%2F%2Fteams.microsoft.com%2Fl%2Fmeetup-join%2F19%253ameeting_NTFhMWU4NjktZWEzNC00NDFmLWIxZmYtMGU0YjUxYjIxZDJk%2540thread.v2%2F0%3Fcontext%3D%257b%2522Tid%2522%253a%2522893e9ba3-1b78-44d8-aca9-105fab957fed%2522%252c%2522Oid%2522%253a%252205c0f8e2-1d10-4b59-8216-2580708f28a6%2522%257d While there, don't forget to sign-up for our prize-draw where you can win Sony Wireless Headphones. See you there!

Mira-Compuware11:06:43

Good afternoon DOES folks, join our team for a virtual lunch session and get your free access to three practical ebooks that help to improve software development and delivery quality, velocity and efficiency. Interested to know more? Visit us onsite :ย https://slack-redir.net/link?url=https%3A%2F%2Fteams.microsoft.com%2Fl%2Fmeetup-join%2F19%253ameeting_NTFhMWU4NjktZWEzNC00NDFmLWIxZmYtMGU0YjUxYjIxZDJk%2540thread.v2%2F0%3Fcontext%3D%257b%2522Tid%2522%253a%2522893e9ba3-1b78-44d8-aca9-105fab957fed%2522%252c%2522Oid%2522%253a%252205c0f8e2-1d10-4b59-8216-2580708f28a6%2522%257d While there, don't forget to sign-up for our prize-draw where you can win Sony Wireless Headphones. See you there!

Ulf11:06:07

why not have the session in slack ? ๐Ÿ™‚

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ItsAsh (ITREV Event Staff)11:06:30

Tell Us Moreย :face_with_monocle:ย -ย https://doesvirtual.com/musedevย - DevOps Fans, how should teams integrate static analysis into their DevOps process?

Andrew Yorra12:06:04

Great questionโ€ฆhereโ€™s a quick article by @stephen summarizing how to do exactly that! https://medium.com/@musedev/continuous-assurance-bringing-static-analysis-into-modern-devops-b28c48be5a4c

Thomas Williams12:06:05

Ahh, so glad we can watch the videos later. Torn between which breakout session to watch! They all sound good.

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John Willis12:06:35

Multi Cloud is like cow tipping. There are no videos on Youtube. Corey Quinn

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cquinn12:06:55

Thatโ€™s a Ben Kehoe quote, to be clear. I didnโ€™t steal it; there was attribution!

John Willis12:06:03

Still love it...

Gareth Septhon12:06:39

Hi All, I hope you donโ€™t mind but Iโ€™d like to tap into your collective expertise to shamelessly help me with an assignment Iโ€™m writing.ย Iโ€™m writing a theoretical review of reflective practices and the models available in this area.ย Has anyone used any particular model they found useful to review either your personal journey into Devops or your company approach?

Gareth Septhon12:06:39

Hi All, I hope you donโ€™t mind but Iโ€™d like to tap into your collective expertise to shamelessly help me with an assignment Iโ€™m writing.ย Iโ€™m writing a theoretical review of reflective practices and the models available in this area.ย Has anyone used any particular model they found useful to review either your personal journey into Devops or your company approach?

Blake (Community at DZone; Gene Kim Fan Club Member 2,000,005)12:06:35

Hi Gareth bringing in @alireza.chegini to help out.

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Alireza13:06:09

Hi, I'd glad to help of course. I'll contact you Gareth for a chat

John Willis12:06:45

Great job Corey.. your always great..

John Willis12:06:12

@blakee I forget what t-shirt I was wearing.

Luke Archer - PagerDuty12:06:22

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Daniel Rankov12:06:51

@aimee.bechtle055 This talk was awesome!

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Daniel Rankov12:06:51

@aimee.bechtle055 This talk was awesome!

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Stefan12:06:18

Fully agree to that

JC Pretorius12:06:27

@corey that was excellent. Thanks!

Steve Challis13:06:06

Just finished an interesting call and would welcome peopleโ€™s thoughts on managing secrets within CI/CD pipelines. Is this a common challenge? Anyone found any great solutions?

Steve Challis13:06:06

Just finished an interesting call and would welcome peopleโ€™s thoughts on managing secrets within CI/CD pipelines. Is this a common challenge? Anyone found any great solutions?

Simon Rohrer, [Sooner Safer Happier contributor] Saxo Bank, Head of EA and DevEx13:06:05

Hashicorp Vault, Thycotic Secret Server, maybe Azure Key Vault

Jesse Cafarelli13:06:50

Yep same here. hashicorp Vault inside kubernetes, with jenkins pipelines running in same cluster is our approach.

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Simon Rohrer, [Sooner Safer Happier contributor] Saxo Bank, Head of EA and DevEx13:06:58

And these should be used for secrets that need to be used during the deployment process. Runtime secrets shouldnโ€™t be deployed during an app build/deploy pipeline process at all.

Steve Challis13:06:40

Any challenges that come up when using vault solutions? Iโ€™m thinking dynamic secrets and provisioning them at scale?

Simon Rohrer, [Sooner Safer Happier contributor] Saxo Bank, Head of EA and DevEx13:06:59

Hashicorp Vault is probably your best bet for dynamic secrets + provisioning them at scale. Thatโ€™s exactly what itโ€™s designed to do.

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Jesse Cafarelli13:06:08

Yea, I love the vault API, it is very well documented. Knowing golang helps and if you do their golang SDK is very easy to use and simple to create a cross os binary to assist in CRUD actions (their cli tool is great but can be overcumbersome when running inside docker containers)

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Ed Pearson (DevOpsGroup)13:06:30

<!here> we had an excellent project-to-product conversation yesterday. Lots of great questions yesterday. Can you help with any of the following: โ€ข Value Stream Mapping - how to start โ€ข Measuring team outcomes not individual efficiencies โ€ข Metrics and measurements โ€ข Selling the concept into an organisation Or do you have any questions on project-to-product? Feel free to add them to the #bof-project-to-product channel if you prefer and I will ask on your behalf!

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Ed Pearson (DevOpsGroup)13:06:30

<!here> we had an excellent project-to-product conversation yesterday. Lots of great questions yesterday. Can you help with any of the following: โ€ข Value Stream Mapping - how to start โ€ข Measuring team outcomes not individual efficiencies โ€ข Metrics and measurements โ€ข Selling the concept into an organisation Or do you have any questions on project-to-product? Feel free to add them to the #bof-project-to-product channel if you prefer and I will ask on your behalf!

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Steve Pereira - Visible Value Stream Consulting13:06:35

Hi Ed! I've got some starting material here that might help: https://thinking.visible.is/feed/starting-out but I'm always happy to jump on a zoom to chat about selling the idea or anything else

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Gitesh Khodiyar17:06:43

Value Stream Mapping - ITIL v4 has some useful material on Service Value Chains. Other approaches I've used are 'Follow the data' through systems to identify dependencies (instead of follow the $$). Uncovering the dependencies is difficult, visualising them is key. Tools like Celonis are a good start but don't uncover the technical dependencies

Steve Pereira - Visible Value Stream Consulting17:06:24

I like tools like celonis for highly capable orgs who've been down the road for a while, but I can't imagine it provides any ROI in less than a year. Most tools and frameworks I find suffer the same upfront cost of setup and training vs a mapping exercise that is done in a few hours. We have a long way to go to bridge the gap

cquinn13:06:50

Thanks! https://www.lastweekinaws.com/does has the takewaway items mentioned in my talk for those who realized as I do that โ€œvideos arenโ€™t clickable links.โ€

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Steve Spear13:06:13

@edward.pearson Hereโ€™s a piece on process mapping that might be of help on the VSM question.

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Steve Spear13:06:13

@edward.pearson Hereโ€™s a piece on process mapping that might be of help on the VSM question.

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Ben Grinnell - North Highland and DOES PC13:06:29

Any leaders out there, or people having challenges with leadership, would love to hear your views note BOF channel starting now

Ben Grinnell - North Highland and DOES PC13:06:29

Any leaders out there, or people having challenges with leadership, would love to hear your views note BOF channel starting now

ItsAsh (ITREV Event Staff)13:06:44

Tell Us More :face_with_monocle: - https://doesvirtual.com/launchdarkly - How do you know your tests are accurate? You donโ€™t have money to waste on inaccurate tests, how do you know theyโ€™re right?

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Mahindra Persaud13:06:55

Hey all, I'm trying to find 12 factor terraform next generation infrastructure as code breakout video in the library but I cannot. Any idea when it might be uploaded?

Mahindra Persaud13:06:55

Hey all, I'm trying to find 12 factor terraform next generation infrastructure as code breakout video in the library but I cannot. Any idea when it might be uploaded?

ItsAsh (ITREV Event Staff)13:06:32

Let me check on this and Iโ€™ll get back to you asap :)

Mahindra Persaud13:06:40

Thank you very much!

ItsAsh (ITREV Event Staff)13:06:40

Youโ€™re welcome! Weโ€™ll have it added as soon as we go to break in just over a hour

Mira-Compuware13:06:34

It's been interesting to hear all the DevOps transformation stories at DOES until now. Where are you on your transformational journey and how your DevOps Toolchain look like? Join Compuware DevOps evangelist Stuart Ashby aka @stuart.ashby at our stand to learn about what a mainframe enabled #DevOps toolchain looks like: https://slack-redir.net/link?url=https%3A%2F%2Fteams.microsoft.com%2Fl%2Fmeetup-join%2F19%253ameeting_NTFhMWU4NjktZWEzNC00NDFmLWIxZmYtMGU0YjUxYjIxZDJk%2540thread.v2%2F0%3Fcontext%3D%257b%2522Tid%2522%253a%2522893e9ba3-1b78-44d8-aca9-105fab957fed%2522%252c%2522Oid%2522%253a%252205c0f8e2-1d10-4b59-8216-2580708f28a6%2522%257d

Patrick Debois13:06:33

That ^^ looked like an org diagram

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Sofio Bediashvili13:06:37

Hey folks, at 4:05pm today our Aqua Security DevSecOp folks (@liz,ย @stephen.giguere,ย @benjy.portnoy) will be online at our booth to discuss one of the following topics, join us on zoomย https://slack-redir.net/link?url=https%3A%2F%2Faquasec.zoom.us%2Fj%2F95825910817%3Fpwd%3DNjJqMkwxa0tVOU1TTG5xVCtuOG84UT09ย and use the emojis to vote now on your topic of choice: Securing microservices in runtimeย ย ย glitch_crab Securing cloud native infrastructureย ย ย shipit Starting cloud native security with opensource toolsย ย ย :fencer: Securing your images 101ย ย ย ๐ŸฅŠ Container security checklistย ย ย โœ”๏ธ Cloud native evasion and exploitationย ย ย ๐Ÿ’ฅ (Death by) Vulnerability Managementย ๐Ÿน

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Beth Beese (Tasktop)13:06:02

#lean-coffee breakouts happening now! @dominica @rradclif @paula.thrasher are among the moderators....don't miss your chance to collab with these industry queens! ๐Ÿ‘‘

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Have you picked up your complimentary copy ofย Project To Productย yet? Claim your free copy of the best-selling book by Dr. Mik Kersten at theย https://doesvirtual.com/tasktop! ๐ŸŽ‰

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Melissa Riley14:06:34

no how do you get a copy?

Hannah Beech14:06:31

I grabbed my free copy, started reading it and realised I definitely need a hardcopy of it. Just ordered the paperback ๐ŸŽ‰

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Heidi Hasting14:06:15

Oh awesome. Now to figure out how to shift it to my kindle

Kurt A, Blameless, SRE Architect15:06:21

You can't ๐Ÿ˜ž - there have been several threads about it in the help channel

Stevie Bryans14:06:02

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Traci Myers at Rundeck14:06:24

Are you the IT support person in your family? 1. Yes 2. SIGH 3. Also, yes 4. Someone else has that titleย 

Traci Myers at Rundeck14:06:24

Are you the IT support person in your family? 1. Yes 2. SIGH 3. Also, yes 4. Someone else has that titleย 

Todd Linnertz - CSG14:06:30

๐Ÿ™‚ Definitely 1

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Jerimiah Owens14:06:28

1 but only in my household. Extended family has to learn to fish ๐Ÿ˜

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Sean Preece14:06:06

3 and for anyone that knows my family. . .

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Cecilia Judmann (Redgate)14:06:07

1, but only because I'm the patient one ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Ciaran Byrne14:06:06

3. But I'm thinking of making them raise a trouble ticket in triplicate and seeking at two additional approvals to get to me. That should do the trick.

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Rui Marques14:06:06

1 2 3 ๐Ÿ˜„

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Ryan Marfurt15:06:54

Does anyone have any good content (article/books/blog posts/etc) on how increasing WIP/batch size/flow load actually decreases velocity? Asking as it's something I believe in, but struggle to communicate to my broader organization.

Ryan Marfurt15:06:54

Does anyone have any good content (article/books/blog posts/etc) on how increasing WIP/batch size/flow load actually decreases velocity? Asking as it's something I believe in, but struggle to communicate to my broader organization.

Paula Thrasher - PagerDuty15:06:43

You can also go way back in the cannon to Goldratt and Theory of Constraints. (And his book, The Goal) https://www.leanproduction.com/theory-of-constraints.html

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Jerimiah Owens15:06:35

In the past, I've done a demonstration where I ask 2 people to solve a simple problem and as they try to solve the problem, I throw more problems at one of them in the midst of it. Then show how bringing in more work doesn't improve outcomes or increase velocity. It just causes distractions which causes churn when switching tasks.

Ryan Marfurt15:06:23

Thank you to all, will check all of this out!

Jon Smart [Sooner Safer Happier]15:06:59

Also, think of a road / motorway / freeway / autobahn. The more cars, the slower they go

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Jon Smart [Sooner Safer Happier]15:06:22

And take a look at Little's Law

Jeffrey Fredrick, Author-Agile Conversations15:06:22

+1 for the penny game that @jonathansmart1 mentioned. It is a great, quick way for people to experience the impact of batch size.

Paul Ingles15:06:04

https://lethain.com/limiting-wip/ is a good treatment too, with links to some workbooks you can play around with numbers to observe the behaviour.

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Preston Gibbs - DevOps Dojo Sensei - Walmart15:06:13

How many military active/veterans do we have attending DOES London this year? Leave a comment with Branch of service and years serviced.

Preston Gibbs - DevOps Dojo Sensei - Walmart15:06:13

How many military active/veterans do we have attending DOES London this year? Leave a comment with Branch of service and years serviced.

Preston Gibbs - DevOps Dojo Sensei - Walmart15:06:39

US Coast Guard/ 6 years

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roy woodfine15:06:03

UK Royal Air Force

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Patrick Debois16:06:56

Also Putting this out here - weโ€™d be interesting on improving the live player for next time - feedback always welcome ๐Ÿ“ฃ

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Patrick Debois16:06:56

Also Putting this out here - weโ€™d be interesting on improving the live player for next time - feedback always welcome ๐Ÿ“ฃ

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Simon Williams16:06:12

Ability to speed up playback?

Peter Maddison16:06:34

Yes please ๐Ÿ™‚

Patrick Debois16:06:55

Not sure how to do that with a livestream :) so basically are suggesting instead of live-streaming release the videos ?:face_with_monocle:

Jason Yee - Speaker - Gremlin16:06:01

Live voting to tell @patrick.debois256 to talk faster/slower! :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

Patrick Debois16:06:41

Ha; like crowd voting video speed :)

Daniel Cahill - Engineer - Ontario Systems16:06:26

I'd like to be able to go back 30 secs so I could finish notes on a slide.

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Patrick Debois16:06:17

Makes sense @dacahill7

Simon Williams16:06:22

@patrick.debois256 if that's possible.

Jon Smart [Sooner Safer Happier]16:06:12

Not sure if the player can do anything about it, more even dB levels

Patrick Debois16:06:47

Subtitles - check Audio normalisation- check

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Colin Claverie10:06:45

already shared on tweeter, but a super-low-bandwith mode would be amazing. Like it shows an image every 4 seconds instead of a video... audio-only was a good feature some times yesterday when my internet wasnโ€™t working really

Colin Claverie10:06:17

detail: the player on ipad in fullscreen shows the controls in the middle of the screen... not a deal breaker but just saying ๐Ÿ™‚

Colin Claverie10:06:37

what i would love is a โ€œrewind 10 secondsโ€; sometimes i was like โ€œwhat did he say ??โ€

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Li Zhu23:06:21

Access from other regions (e.g. APAC) may suffer from a little bit latency(about 3~4s)

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Would you rather: 1. Use a flip phone 2. Give up ice cream

Traci Myers at Rundeck16:06:00

Would you rather: 1. Use a flip phone 2. Give up ice cream

Kendra Little16:06:50

Flip phone, 1,000% It's so retro it's cool again, like mom jeans

Traci Myers at Rundeck16:06:17

๐Ÿ‘†That is SO true.

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Quan Nguyen16:06:53

I'm working for a digital bank. Even though we have an OK CI/CD pipeline, which only needs few clicks to build/promote to PROD. But we still have to fire a CAB ticket (JIRA Helpdesk) and attend the CAB forum for every single change. This usually adds a day or two to a feature journey. Anyone can point me to any good content to improve the situation?

Quan Nguyen16:06:53

I'm working for a digital bank. Even though we have an OK CI/CD pipeline, which only needs few clicks to build/promote to PROD. But we still have to fire a CAB ticket (JIRA Helpdesk) and attend the CAB forum for every single change. This usually adds a day or two to a feature journey. Anyone can point me to any good content to improve the situation?

jeff.gallimore (CTIO - Excella, he/him)17:06:52

Two amazing books: 1. The Unicorn Project by @genek101 2. Accelerate by @nicolefv

Benoit Bourdin17:06:01

there are many good ways to both comply with change management quality and speed. One of the first easy steps without having to change your process would be to get most of your changes considered as "standard changes" = pre-approved change requests not going to a CAB, automate your CR creation and you are done. But that's only a first start of a journey to a transformation.

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Dominica DeGrandis, Author - Making Work Visible, Tasktop17:06:03

@scott.prugh may have some thoughts on CAB ๐Ÿ‘† There's a forum paper from 2019 on it.

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Quan Nguyen17:06:17

I found this twitter message from Scott Prugh about eliminating CAB https://twitter.com/ScottPrugh/status/1175007056903987200 , but i don't see the paper yet

Simon Williams17:06:29

"for every single change." ๐Ÿ˜ž Is it just a case of "because regulation" that everything has to be approved? Are there lower level impact changes that can be accelerated either automatically or with a faster review process?

Quan Nguyen17:06:57

@simonw even a security group change or a whitelist DB update needs a CAB, it's pretty frustrated. I think they're just cargo culting the "CAB"

Quan Nguyen17:06:12

@jeff.gallimore thank you. Now i understand what @dominicameans about "a forum paper", i'm new to the ITRevolution

jeff.gallimore (CTIO - Excella, he/him)17:06:16

Lots of good papers there on lots of topics. And welcome to the community!

Scott Prugh (CTO - CSG) DOES Prog Committee17:06:00

@quan.nguyen See our paper as Jeff mentions. Note that people closest to the change know the most about how to deliver it safely.

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Scott Prugh (CTO - CSG) DOES Prog Committee17:06:38

We moved to "local cab" where the teams own their changes and review them as part of standup.

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Scott Prugh (CTO - CSG) DOES Prog Committee17:06:56

Its in the backlog of all the work they are doing.

Scott Prugh (CTO - CSG) DOES Prog Committee17:06:24

You can do this with manual changes too and I highly recoomend it.

Benoit Bourdin18:06:35

exactly, as @scott.prugh is saying, empower the team as much as possible so you can break this dependency

Neil D20:06:38

I had the same situation in a large financial institution. Try and get a an agreement to what is a standard change that can be pushed without CAB, or at least weโ€™ll notify you but will be classed as automatic approval

Gitesh Khodiyar08:06:48

For software, 1) you can make sure that code commit comments are reviewed/approved by the right stakeholders before being pulled into the master branch. 2) Change the architecture to remove dependencies on applications and infrastructure outside your control, that way you don't need permission from others to make a change 3) Make the person that owns the risk responsible for approving a change, they must be satisfied that there is sufficient mitigation in place if the change goes wrong eg rollback, restore, incident teams are ready to manage defects if you can't rollback 4) Test people, test processes, test tools to give confidence the change will work

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Quan Nguyen16:06:00

@david.watson โ˜๏ธ

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Gene Kim, ITREV, Program Chair17:06:15

OMG. A movie of the MuseDev Karaoke. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Gene Kim, ITREV, Program Chair17:06:15

OMG. A movie of the MuseDev Karaoke. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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inactive17:06:45

@mvk842 @stephen @una @ayorra @nuwayser @ann.marie.99 @tommy @nes @omgjc71 @bryan.finster @dlfinster @jesse.cafarelli @richard.herrett @rob.falla @rahul.maharaj @annp @mail832

Ann Marie Fred - Red Hat18:06:23

Iโ€™m actually glad you grabbed thatโ€ฆ but just a few seconds of it. :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

Thomas Williams19:06:11

Had to grab this as we ended to U2 - With or Without You.

Nes Cohen18:06:02

Haha that was great. For anyone who missed it, the lag was definitely caused by zoom not beer ๐Ÿ˜›

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Margueritte Kim (CEO, IT Revolution, she/her)18:06:17

@nes - You win with your excellent rendition of โ€œThe Distance.โ€œ!

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Margueritte Kim (CEO, IT Revolution, she/her)18:06:17

@nes - You win with your excellent rendition of โ€œThe Distance.โ€œ!

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Nes Cohen18:06:41

๐Ÿ˜Ž You must have excellent taste in karaoke

Nes Cohen18:06:03

TYTY

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Ann Marie Fred - Red Hat18:06:15

I agree, โ€œThe Distanceโ€ was pretty great.

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