Hi everyone! I have a metrics question... i am setting up some basic measuring. What, in your experience, are good data sources for deployment frequency? Do you use dev environment tools like jira or jenkins, or ops env data?

Hi everyone! I have a metrics question... i am setting up some basic measuring. What, in your experience, are good data sources for deployment frequency? Do you use dev environment tools like jira or jenkins, or ops env data?

Hey folks, doing a bit of forward planning given the constraints of Slack calls, how many folks are intending on joining the call later. If its more than 15 I'll set something else up. If you can like this if you are intending on joining

As a starter, who is doing Data DevOps?

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we do automated pipelines for data, configured as code.

does that count?

Would you say your maturity is on par with the app code?

no, not yet. but our app pipelines are pretty far ahead - they build themselves for example

also working with data scientists is a challenge as their dev knowledge is normally ... ahh.... shallow.

We see that you can't give them a piecemeal solution, you need to give them a complete approach, they can't bring much to the table.

which sort of means you've got to be a practitioner of data science as well

<!here> will be starting the call in a few minutes. If we hit the limit we'll jump into zoom

ok slack doesn't ll any call with groups > 15. So this is the link to a zoom call https://zoom.us/j/95481274914

<!here> To attend the call jump on the zoom here https://zoom.us/j/95481274914 Look forward to seeing/hearing from you.

Great discussion on what data DevOps is about

@simon thanks for the discussion on data DevOps.

sorry i missed it

we are looking for zero downtime deployment for RDBS , any recommendation or suggestion ?

Depends on your DBMS

Take a look at things like Flyway & Liquibase

Take a look at things like Flyway & Liquibase

Or maybe Redgate

And zero downtime for DBs is as much about culture & refactoring practices as it is about tooling

https://martinfowler.com/books/refactoringDatabases.html is an essential read

SQL or Oracle both

ok thanks for sharing..

For SQL Server have a look at Microsoft’s tooling around Entity Framework migrations and DACPACs - there are some good patterns there

For SQL Server have a look at Microsoft’s tooling around Entity Framework migrations and DACPACs - there are some good patterns there

Oracle I’m not so sure about the native tooling

@cbergh Discussion is still going on

https://zoom.us/j/95481274914

let me also join

Zero downtime is totally down to understanding the platform

@mohit.raina , i can discuss Flyway and Redgate's SQL and Oracle specific tools with you next week during our meeting 🙂